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Altaica Amur
Gallente The Elliance
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Posted - 2010.09.29 19:53:00 -
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I have a fairly challenging time picking sides in this because on one hand BCA are a good group of guys and I don't know enough goons personally to feel good or bad about it. On the other hand I do know that Numanor is dumb enough to do this, probably dumber then you even think if all you know of him is described in this thread. My best guess/conclusion is that Numanor's dumbness got him and his alliance into trouble and Goon/TEST looked out for number one and made sure that trouble stuck to him.
That said I don't think Goon/TEST are injured parties in any way here, probably right but in no way negatively impacted on the scale that BCA is, largely it's BCA paying for having dumb leadership. I'd say TnT and OWN shouldn't have anything to worry about so long as they don't have leadership that dumb but with the pattern developing for small alliances renting in Dek.... well it wouldn't be a bad thing to have your heavy gear packed.
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Altaica Amur
Gallente The Elliance
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Posted - 2010.09.29 21:20:00 -
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Quote: I don't see how a one time occurance equals a pattern but ok.
It wouldn't but BCA was preceded in this pattern of fail by Defy who had epically stupid leadership
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Altaica Amur
Gallente The Elliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 17:01:00 -
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Quote: lets hope you don't... you have some of the best assets in the game - i know this becuase of the "head banging" against the wall with TCF i had 8 months back..It was the main reason I left Defy at the time - we saw the relationship with TCF was becoming sour, We had enough good people willing to work hard to expand the alliance but we were constained despite feeling we deserved more. (The cloud ring campaign was something we shouldn't had done but hey - we tried)
My opinion is you guys should be in deklien becuase of the pure size you guys have grown too. TCF in my opinion didnt deserve Deklien because they couldn't occupy half of it and didn't have the numbers. This is what frustrated me. At one point Defy was 1600 occupying 5 systems and TCF was 1800 occupying most of deklien other than BCA, Own and then TNT. In the 5 systems we Occupied the only decent asset we had was a Neo moon that DA wouldn't allow us to cap.
And I believe that is where it started to go sour. All I will say is Defi4nt and BCA tried to become a force but in my opinion the leaders and the overloads let the habitants down. I know its business but those who work together and create a "marriage" type partnership are the ones that survive, in that I mean a Win-Win situation where both parties win. Relationships that create a Win-Loss situation are not true partnerships and the so called "looser" will in the end create a no-going back situation like Num and Goons and Redia and DA did.
At times the NC Nap train is just like watching a good Soap, it may be napped - but there is enough political BS to keep the most unpolitical of people entertained.
Just... stop, there are many reasons why Defy is no longer in Dek and you listed none of them just BS defending a leadership that screwed it up for themselves and their alliance. Just as an example, the number of people in defy was never representative of it's actual online people or even more so their online and in fleet. During the CR campaign they were lucky to get a 30 man fleet going, I know because I was often one of those 30.
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Altaica Amur
Gallente The Elliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:11:00 -
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Awfully strange way of doing it :p
Quote: My opinion is you guys should be in deklien becuase of the pure size you guys have grown too. TCF in my opinion didnt deserve Deklien because they couldn't occupy half of it and didn't have the numbers. This is what frustrated me. At one point Defy was 1600 occupying 5 systems and TCF was 1800 occupying most of deklien other than BCA, Own and then TNT. In the 5 systems we Occupied the only decent asset we had was a Neo moon that DA wouldn't allow us to cap.
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